When writing this question:

I realized we miss the tag for Weird Fiction. While it would be a really specific tag, as it is a fairly niche genre, I guess that since it's a recognized genre it should have the same dignity as more broad ones (like horror, fantasy etc).

Yet, as far as Wikipedia definition go {Weird Fiction,New Weird}, Weird Fiction is used mostly for novels written between late 19th and early 20th centuries. Weird Fiction nowadays is called "New Weird" (sigh) to signify that it's, well, new.

So, we have those chances:

  • We add both
  • We add both, one as a synonym of the other
  • We add only one of them
  • We don't add any

I'm personally against the last option, but I'm really not sure about the others.

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    Not that this means much but I hadn't even heard of these genres until your question. I'm reluctant to add tags without some evidence that they'll be useful and get used. Are there any other posts you'd retag? May 29 '19 at 14:33
  • @Cyn Posts about lovercraftian horrors, abominations and so on would apply. Namely I've counted up to five at a quick glance, so not many. May 29 '19 at 15:17
  • So Lovecraft fan fiction... (not exclusively I mean) May 29 '19 at 15:18
  • Not only, thought. May 29 '19 at 15:19
  • Sorry I edited my comment after you wrote yours. I meant that the FF would qualify, not that it was everything in the genre. May 29 '19 at 15:20
  • Allright, no harm done! May 29 '19 at 15:20
  • We do not even have a tag for noir as a genre...
    – NofP
    May 29 '19 at 22:39
  • "Lovecraftian" would probably be more popular than "Weird".
    – wetcircuit
    May 30 '19 at 9:50
  • "Lovecraftian" can refer to fanfic (which includes numerous professionally published novels) but also to a fictional scenario refined by him and peers such as Arthur Machen, in which humans confront entities which are either evil or amoral but which exist at a level of power which is outside of our ability to conceive them properly, leading to a nihilistic world view (this can also be done humorously, so it isn't necessarily dour). I agree that "Lovecraftian" is popular enough that it'd probably be more useful than the ill-defined "Weird."
    – El Cadejo
    May 30 '19 at 14:50

Niche tags are fine. If the tag would help people interested in that specific genre find questions about it, it's worth considering even if we currently only have a handful of questions about it.

On the other hand, we want to avoid unnecessary fragmentation because it makes it harder for people to find all the interesting questions. So, for example, if "weird" and "new weird" are similar enough that somebody looking for one would probably want to see questions from the other, we shouldn't create both. That'd be like having tags for both "elves" and "dwarves" instead of a "fantasy" tag.

I suggest creating one tag, with a good wiki that mentions both variants, unless we1 think they really are different.

1 By "we" I mean "people who actually know enough to have an informed opinion, which doesn't include me.

  • +1 perhaps some informed soul could suggest the more general of the two tags
    – NofP
    May 29 '19 at 22:35

It was asked some time ago:

do we need a tag for every genre?

Galastel's answer started with:

I don't think we need tags that are that specific.

and also said (and I agree):

But I cannot imagine a question that's so specific to a particular sub-sub-genre that it would be irrelevant to the broader genre.

I think that easily sums up the no-tag position.

  • What's the broader genre in this case? May 30 '19 at 0:35
  • @MonicaCellio I don't want to detract from a genre that I did not know existed (despite being an avid reader of Lovecraft), but fantasy or horror seem to be mentioned in most of the descriptions I read.
    – NofP
    May 30 '19 at 6:28

Gothic? I just checked and there's no Gothic tag in the alphabetical Tag list. IIRC that encompasses Lovecraftian material as well as other related genres, even steam. "Horror" is so very broad, while Gothic implies certain anachronistic elements that cause it to hover on the SF/F borderline with a serious dose of "uncanny."


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